As is increasingly happening between and among that small segment of people naturally inclined to seek & tell the truth (or greatest likelihood) and whom either always have or eventually come to esteem the liberty of individual people as a result of what they learn in the course of their truth-seeking and telling, the paths of disparate people who probably never would have had occasion to interact in a prior time are regularly crossing now, those who further might never have agreed with each other about societal and political issues in that former time. Here we have another and exceptional intersect between two of the good guys, James Corbett & Jimmy Dore, or so I deem them, anyway.
Both would once have described themselves as liberals, and maybe Dore still would, but those labels are increasingly irrelevant, as the schism within society is really just about truth & freedom, most people having no stomach or regard for either, and causing those who do to easily spot and ally with each other.
I think these intersections and their resultant conversations are perhaps the most positive indicators of a future virtuous human society. Note, as is always true in such intersections, the civility of the conversation:
One of my favorite aspects of the rise of libertarian thinking and of people willing to see and accept what actually happened in the past, and how things actually work, actually are, or at least probably, plausibly are, i.e., the ‘truth’ movement (which often then leads to libertarian thinking), is the convergence and alliance of various voices in those worlds.
It seems that people who are inclined to open-mindedly inquire about….whatever, and who are tempermentally suited to accepting whatever they might discover – that is, such people don’t care if George Washington did or did not have a moral conundrum over a cherry tree, are not personally invested in that story or any other – tend to find each other over time, and I have found that their discussions, however they might once have defined themselves politically, are almost invariably civil, good natured, informative, constructive, and building upon each other’s awarenesses and expertises, to be synergistic. But the tone alone indicates the value.
A society of people interacting like people do in these intersections would be a fine world to live in, I suspect. Good – and interesting – to listen to, these conversations and intersections are probably the most hope inspiring thing I’m aware of about humanity’s potential to climb out of the crab pot, some of of us, anyway.
This is a conversation between American attorney ‘Lee Gaulman’ of The Quash webcast (highest recommendation) and Englishman, James Delingpole, one likely an agnostic or atheist, the other fervently Christian, both formerly considering themselves conservatives of one form or another and thinking that the similar structures of government they each lived under were legitimate and controllable, now entirely disabused of that notion, both having looked behind the curtain, never to be able to unsee what’s back there, and, not wanting to.
Whether it’s Mark Crispin-Miller talking to Catherine Austin-Fitts, or Greg Reese talking with Celia Farber, these intersections are always good news, the best news, perhaps. Delingpole is unusually quiet in this one (he has a great webcast), mainly just listening to Gaulman, whose expertise in law is significant, the nuts and bolts legal perspective unusual, as is the stark directness of his message, one I have long shared, and which time has come, or so I hope.
As previously stated (and as will be repeatedly stated hereafter), far more now than any information or perspective I’m ever exposed to, I increasingly trust the tone of the interactions I hear and witness; the civility, reciprocity, thoughtfulness, humor and open-mindedness of those interacting, or the lack thereof, and which are, especially taken together, I find, easy and highly reliable gauges of the sincerity of the speakers, and of whether the information or perspective being shared is potentially worthwhile, or not.
This is one such conversation between people (Greg Reese and Celia Farber) displaying the above traits, one of many I regularly hear and seek out, and this and conversations like it, the tone of it, is one reason I don’t despair for the state of the world, as one might easily and justifiably do.
Neither of these two people believe, with very good and well considered reason, I think, that almost anything at all we are presented with as the news of the day or the events of the moment are actually as or what they seem, and both would be, and are – by the kind of people not exhibiting the above traits, especially those that work in the kinds of influential jobs and in the kinds of influential places where the above traits are hugely frowned upon and heavily penalized – derided, disingenously and cynically, as ‘conspiracy theorists’ or alt-right extremists, but they are neither, and I find their discussion here, and others like it, to be among the most hopeful indicators for the future, one I hope and expect could look very unlike our present.
He’s probably not all the way down the rabbit hole, but I have to admire ol’ Slowhand for putting himself in the crosshairs about the shots (and his own adverse effect), and now his support of the vilified Mr. Kennedy.
I find it notably self-corroborating as to being, at least energetically, if not informationally, on the right track, that all truth seeking roads seem to converge, and not even all that gradually, that partisanship falls immediately away, and, also, that courtesy and civility between and among most, or maybe all, of the people sincerely following these converging paths is usually present, and rancor absent.
Not unlike the difference between a dog instinctively wagging its tail or growling at someone, that’s my real barometer now, and I never ignore it.
DEC. ’23 UPDATE: Mr Kennedy’s head scratching support for Israel under apparently any circumstances has since (I originally posted this) cast a cloud over his public office venture and his character, alas, particularly considering his family’s past (which is possibly the explanation for it, as well), but Clapton’s gesture is not diminished by that.
Freedom, and ultimately this is about freedom of association, will never be attained by voting, or the proxy voting of already or always about to be captured representatives that we plead our cases to, make our preferences known to, beg for different, better treatment from, but the more local and more diffuse these occurrences, the better.